they thought she was a flake, that she couldn't do it, and then she got out there, started talking, and people said, wow, she actually makes a convincing argument. wow, she can put two words together. and it had a great effect for her because she exceeded expectations with by so much. now, however, that those expectations have been exceeded there's a new benchmark that she has to hit, and that's where it gets more challenging. jon: and interesting to me, fascinating that rick perry, a guy who isn't even in the race, said he hasn't decided yet, certainly hasn't announced, comes in third ahead of all the people who have announced. that is, that is, i should say, you know, behind mitt romney, obviously, who's in first. >> part of that is the fact that he is new and people can ascribe whatever views and beliefs that they want to give him, but it also is the truth that he is talking the talk that conservatives want to hear. the tea party is looking for a more conservative alternative to mitt romney, and right now rick perry is looking like the guy.